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Re: DE, Why Bother?
No, it's relaxed.
You see me shift? you shift faster om your way to the supermarket :-)
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Peter National PCA Instructor. Pics and youtubes ==> Daily driver '10RS white/gold. White OEM RS roll bar, red schroth seat belts, CUP LSD, lip and Gurney, Sharky, V1, K40 laser blocker. Sold '07GT3 white |
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not racing but still fun. getting the free beer from someone else is our 10$ trophy
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When he says getting, he means stealing.
Mike, aren't you supposed to be busy handing your Amex number to a guy in Philly for a 4.0? Its 1:58PM.. Tic toc..
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Peter National PCA Instructor. Pics and youtubes ==> Daily driver '10RS white/gold. White OEM RS roll bar, red schroth seat belts, CUP LSD, lip and Gurney, Sharky, V1, K40 laser blocker. Sold '07GT3 white |
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haha, i have time before i make it back to sebring next year to get a 4.0. im sure there will be one for sale by mooty by then
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Reter got dibs on that one.
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Peter National PCA Instructor. Pics and youtubes ==> Daily driver '10RS white/gold. White OEM RS roll bar, red schroth seat belts, CUP LSD, lip and Gurney, Sharky, V1, K40 laser blocker. Sold '07GT3 white |
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you dont need it. im slow i need all the help i can get
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For me I'd like to race someday...but if I don't....oh well I guess. I've raced before....Offshore Powerboats with APBA and I loved the competition. Again like all you racers I was just racing for trophies for the most part but we did have a purse and small purse.
I love doing DE's just for the fun of it and the friends I've made along the way. I know my personality and If I ever got into racing I would naturally make it expensive for myself. Plus honestly I don't have the money to turn my 2009 Porsche into a race car and an older lower cost Porsche with Tip Tronic would never ever be competitive.
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Mike - lowly 2012 Carrera GTS - Honorary GT3 Forum Member |
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Trackrat, you reached the nub of the DE-Racing issue with your points.
I never progressed to racing after DE and instructing because I too reached the same realization as Dell, and he put it quite simply: Quote:
Good luck with whatever you end up doing. Wes |
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Hugh I agree with your point for sure. As it is mentioned already, once in racing or time trial competition, I found out that it gets exponentially more costly to keep up with the faster crowd. In the DE environment, mostly bench racing, I find it much easier to keep up with them
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Yep my bench goes faster than anybody, especially with all the stickers!
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I have raced before (offshore boats) an I loved the competition and I miss that with DE....but on the other hand I love the camaraderie and friends I have at my DE's and I enjoy instructing and making DE's fun for new students.
I can't afford a race car so I enjoy taking my street car to the track and going as fast as I can go with no worries of getting a ticket.
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I raced years ago, quit (young kids, business), then got into DE's and instructing and had a great time for many years. Made the jump back into racing a couple of years ago...and have now bought another 6GT3 so that I can get back into doing more DE's. I think they are very different activities with racing, and the full race car, being far more intense. It is very expensive and time consuming and just about becomes a second career. I'm looking forward to getting back into some DE's that are far more social and relaxing in addition to racing.
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started racing in 09. great fun, lots of work. now young kids and more work... may even have to quit racing, aghast.... i like both DE and racing for different reason. DE you can hang out with friends and chew fat. racing, you are all business and just want to set lap times. |
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I don't race my GT3 because of the cost (ok - and lack of skills), but I really love high performance driving. I suppose if I raced a cheap car like a Honda or something, my annual cost might even be less than DE-ing my GT3, but I think the GT3 has spoiled me performance-wise. Not sure if I would really enjoy driving a slow, cheap car around the track. A friend tried it with a Toyota Sports Racer and he only lasted a few races before dumping it for a GT3 Cup car.
A regular DE like what I was at last week reminded me of what I don't like about the local track/groups and that is the fixed passing zones. I was a fair bit faster than much of the field (just some guys with their regular street cars) and I was constantly slowing down to a cool-down lap pace from turn 3 all the way through turn 6 for the next passing zone where I'd hope the guy in front checked his mirror and gave me a point. If there were 2 or more cars then I'd be waiting a lot longer. Ugh. At my fav DE days at ORP with a bunch of friends, we pass anywhere with a point and the guys are fantastic about watching their mirrors (me included - esp when PJ is behind me!). Right rules - right group. If every DE was like that I probably wouldn't even think about racing. Next year I might take the local race car driving school to get my novice racing license. Then rent a Honda from a guy I know and give it a shot. $500/day with full support is less than my GT3 DE costs so I may as well try it out. We'll see what happens. |
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I supposed the "local track/groups" are not PCA since they did not have open passing? Most clubs on the east coast nowadays, allow open passing in black/red type groups, which adds a lot of excitement and enjoyment IMO.
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