Close Call at South Bend

[Dell]

As far as the differences we have about which gear, etc, the bottom line is that data doesn't lie. I strongly encourage anybody that has data to really use it as a teaching and learning tool. Instead of trying to run the fastest lap every single time out, just work on specific sections the best of your ability and try them a few different ways. Then do sector analysis to let the data do the talking.

[SH || NC]

Fatih, if you know AIM stuff, I could use your help insetting up some review protocols.

[FTS]

Originally Posted by Dell

As far as the differences we have about which gear, etc, the bottom line is that data doesn't lie. I strongly encourage anybody that has data to really use it as a teaching and learning tool. Instead of trying to run the fastest lap every single time out, just work on specific sections the best of your ability and try them a few different ways. Then do sector analysis to let the data do the talking.

I have been preaching this for the last several years; yeah baby!!!

[jenk12m]

i never really was into to the data side until i got some coaching from seth thomas and he would drive my car, then i would drive and we would immediately pull up the data to compare. he showed me a lot with the whole time gap vs distance, acce/braking vs distance etc. but i still have a lot to learn to fully understand everything

[Dell]

It can get overwhelming I agree but as long as you have somebody that knows how to read the data or at least teach some basic interpretation then the benefit is huge. Having somebody put some data down for you in your car and then comparing yours will really show the places for improvement.

The other thing that data taught me is what the CAR is capable of. There are corners on tracks that aesthetically scare the crap out of us and we "think" we are at the limit. Then you see the data and know the car is capable of more latG.

All this talk has got me itching to go hit the circuit!

[FTS]

What do you guys use for logging?

[Dell]

My butt.

[Dell]

Just kidding. Couldn't resist

I use Traqmate.

[SH || NC]

AIM, Evo4, with ECU and GPS data

[TRAKCAR]

I use Traqmate.

Sorry to hear that. Me too.

[Dell]

You don't like TM?

[TRAKCAR]

Hate it with a passion. I should file suit for the "timing made easy" slogan.
Their support and manuals are insulting.
The software has not been updated for years. Not sure if the company is still active besides selling what they developed years ago.

[Dell]

I have never needed to contact their support so I can't speak from experience. The software though I did find very easy to learn and use.

[TRAKCAR]

I have tried. They just lck you out of the forum when you show frustration.

The first years I owned it no local supprt and it never worked right.
After local support (great guy) started to exist it sometimes works.

Just spent 3 hours yesterday to get data on my laptop.
I could not do it, can't find the port. This is new problem but it is something every time.

In typical Traqmate style there is no solution, except try to reboot and maybe the 50th time it will work. I work hard to discourange anyone to invest in Traqmate, because they see the cool video and think it works great.

I have too much $$ invested to buy something else now, but will as soon as I find a better supported alternative.

[Dell]

If it is any consolation I agree with you that support is vital. I can say AIM has fantastic support. I had AIM (MXL Pista) in my last two race cars (RS America and Spec Boxster) and it is phenomenal how powerful it is. The other side of that is you need a course in how to really learn the software. I let my engineer do the data interpretation for me and it was usually between sessions.